Comments on: Desertion Rate Up? http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/ Updated information on Veteran Benefits, featured Military Bloggers, the You Served Podcast and various other news and information relevant to Veterans. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:04:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: CJ http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-39550 CJ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:12:34 +0000 http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-39550 Wow, Roland! Aren't we the bright beacon of hope and optimism!! How about providing links to your "conclusions" from real studies on the subject matters you discuss? As an active duty Soldier, here's a statistic for you: I think 85% of your comment is bogus. Wow, Roland! Aren’t we the bright beacon of hope and optimism!! How about providing links to your “conclusions” from real studies on the subject matters you discuss? As an active duty Soldier, here’s a statistic for you: I think 85% of your comment is bogus.

]]> By: Roland Van Deusen http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-39403 Roland Van Deusen Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:38:37 +0000 http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-39403 As a vet, I doubt anyone would risk death & dismemberment to make a political statement. Might be, w/suicides the highest in 26yrs, 10-20% of combat vets w/some degree of traumatic brain injury, 30% of combat vets seeking mental health help, vets, 11% of the US, now 25% of the homeless, 12% of the 2 million incarcerated, Army divorces up 28%, 80% for officers, twice @ many injuries as 25,000 combat wounded, military dependent child abuse up 60%, 4000 KIAs, desertion being the highest in 26 years is just another symptom that we've broken the Army trying to win two Asian land wars without a draft. Wait till the coming tsunami of depleted uranium victims hits . Desert Storm's ground campaign was 100 HOURS long, 56% of its 400,000 vets nowpermanently diabled, 15,000 dead from DU caused diseases. One Afghanistan commanding General guessed "50 years" to win that one, but some guys wounded & discharged are dunned to return their enlistment bonuses for completing their contract years. If you get PTSD, some Army shrinks are ordered to diagnose you "personality disorder" so they won't have to treat you, some VA evaluators deny your shrapnel wounds are combat related. Vietnam era, I got a master's degree on the GI bill, but it's another world now. As a vet, I doubt anyone would risk death & dismemberment to make a political statement. Might be, w/suicides the highest in 26yrs, 10-20% of combat vets w/some degree of traumatic brain injury, 30% of combat vets seeking mental health help, vets, 11% of the US, now 25% of the homeless, 12% of the 2 million incarcerated, Army divorces up 28%, 80% for officers, twice @ many injuries as 25,000 combat wounded, military dependent child abuse up 60%, 4000 KIAs, desertion being the highest in 26 years is just another symptom that we’ve broken the Army trying to win two Asian land wars without a draft. Wait till the coming tsunami of depleted uranium victims hits . Desert Storm’s ground campaign was 100 HOURS long, 56% of its 400,000 vets nowpermanently diabled, 15,000 dead from DU caused diseases. One Afghanistan commanding General guessed “50 years” to win that one, but some guys wounded & discharged are dunned to return their enlistment bonuses for completing their contract years. If you get PTSD, some Army shrinks are ordered to diagnose you “personality disorder” so they won’t have to treat you, some VA evaluators deny your shrapnel wounds are combat related. Vietnam era, I got a master’s degree on the GI bill, but it’s another world now.

]]> By: CJ http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-34202 CJ Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:42:57 +0000 http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-34202 Luke, anyone that tells people they won't go to Iraq if they join the Army is a liar. Anyone that believes them is naive and ignorant of current events!! Luke, anyone that tells people they won’t go to Iraq if they join the Army is a liar. Anyone that believes them is naive and ignorant of current events!!

]]> By: ma_che http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-34185 ma_che Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:34:46 +0000 http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-34185 Not so fast, check this out http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/military_desertion_rates_and_t.html Not so fast, check this out

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/military_desertion_rates_and_t.html

]]> By: Luke http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-34133 Luke Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:29:48 +0000 http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/11/16/desertion-rate-up/#comment-34133 In my experience, people are signing up and NOT expecting to be sent to Iraq due mostly to recruiters. You say quote: "I’ve NEVER come across any deserters". Neither have I. However, I have also NEVER come across a person that went thru the recruiting process without being told at least one LIE. A good friend of mine was interested in the service but not interested in going to Iraq. His recruiter told him for months on end that he would be guaranteed a duty here in the US and there's no way he could be forced to Iraq. Several of his veteran friends (myself included) immediately began telling him this is total BS. He questioned his recruiter only to get talked into circles and circles until our friend ultimately believed the recruiter. So our friend joined the forces thinking he would get the cushy desk job here in the USA at the location of his choosing. Much to his suprise, guess where he is sitting right now? You guessed it. Iraq. Guess what he's considering doing? You guessed it again, deserting. This is how recruiters get their numbers in times like these. In my experience, people are signing up and NOT expecting to be sent to Iraq due mostly to recruiters. You say quote: “I’ve NEVER come across any deserters”. Neither have I. However, I have also NEVER come across a person that went thru the recruiting process without being told at least one LIE. A good friend of mine was interested in the service but not interested in going to Iraq. His recruiter told him for months on end that he would be guaranteed a duty here in the US and there’s no way he could be forced to Iraq. Several of his veteran friends (myself included) immediately began telling him this is total BS. He questioned his recruiter only to get talked into circles and circles until our friend ultimately believed the recruiter. So our friend joined the forces thinking he would get the cushy desk job here in the USA at the location of his choosing. Much to his suprise, guess where he is sitting right now? You guessed it. Iraq. Guess what he’s considering doing? You guessed it again, deserting. This is how recruiters get their numbers in times like these.

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