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		<title>By: Richard Langtry</title>
		<link>http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/05/08/ivaw-tries-again/#comment-62930</link>
		<author>Richard Langtry</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>OK, it's the 16th and I don't see any reports of what happened yesterday with the Winter Soldier on the hill drama ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, it&#8217;s the 16th and I don&#8217;t see any reports of what happened yesterday with the Winter Soldier on the hill drama ????</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/05/08/ivaw-tries-again/#comment-63184</link>
		<author>CJ</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Richard, hang in there.  I'm still wading through the "testimony" and researching the truth to contrast it with.  I should have something up by Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, hang in there.  I&#8217;m still wading through the &#8220;testimony&#8221; and researching the truth to contrast it with.  I should have something up by Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid</title>
		<link>http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/05/08/ivaw-tries-again/#comment-66588</link>
		<author>Hamid</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wow you're investigating the facts and you can't even post the most basic facts correctly? You should stick to writing things you know about. First of all, all the people who testified before congress also testified at Winter Soldier II. (Here is a hint: thats why they call it Winter Soldier on the Hill). I like how you try to cover up the inaccuracy of you generalities with "for the most part". The Holocaust was an exaggeration "for the most part". 

"For someone about to testify about the atrocities and the “abuse and killing of innocent Iraqi civilians” I found it odd that his main page features pictures of him holding and playing with Iraqi children." What the hell is wrong with you? You're criticizing somebody for posting a picture of playing with kids.

"Even if we used the disproven Lancelot survey taken back in 2004 and multiply their skewed numbers as an average, the most we would find are 500,000 deaths."
 The Lancelot study? What the hell is this? Camelot's study? Its called the Lancet study, and in 2006 they estimated 650,00 deaths, and its a lot more credible then your fair and balanced reporting. You aren't going into this with a preset agenda are you?

The extreme left wing Iraq Body Count? Who are you kidding? Counting deaths that show up in the press is reliable, and extremely left wing? I'm sure the press counts the number of farts in Iraq also, and has made an accurate report on how that is effecting greenhouse gases.

I like how anybody who comes back from Iraq, isn't all cheery and happy about everything that went on there, and then talks about it publicly is a traitor. Hell, most of my unit was saying "F-ck this sh-t" y the end of the deployment so criticizing them is criticizing most of my unit, hence you can suck it.

Jason Washburn talking about firing on a woman with a Mk 19 or being in a free fire zone sounds like he didn't witness that, that was just other people yeah?

I don't know anybody in the Army who is an alcoholic. I'm sure you're just fine after dealing with the stench of rotting corpses all day.

I'm sorry for messing with you. "Tailgunner Joe" McCarthy was a good man, and saved America from those Democrat communists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow you&#8217;re investigating the facts and you can&#8217;t even post the most basic facts correctly? You should stick to writing things you know about. First of all, all the people who testified before congress also testified at Winter Soldier II. (Here is a hint: thats why they call it Winter Soldier on the Hill). I like how you try to cover up the inaccuracy of you generalities with &#8220;for the most part&#8221;. The Holocaust was an exaggeration &#8220;for the most part&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8220;For someone about to testify about the atrocities and the “abuse and killing of innocent Iraqi civilians” I found it odd that his main page features pictures of him holding and playing with Iraqi children.&#8221; What the hell is wrong with you? You&#8217;re criticizing somebody for posting a picture of playing with kids.</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if we used the disproven Lancelot survey taken back in 2004 and multiply their skewed numbers as an average, the most we would find are 500,000 deaths.&#8221;<br />
 The Lancelot study? What the hell is this? Camelot&#8217;s study? Its called the Lancet study, and in 2006 they estimated 650,00 deaths, and its a lot more credible then your fair and balanced reporting. You aren&#8217;t going into this with a preset agenda are you?</p>
<p>The extreme left wing Iraq Body Count? Who are you kidding? Counting deaths that show up in the press is reliable, and extremely left wing? I&#8217;m sure the press counts the number of farts in Iraq also, and has made an accurate report on how that is effecting greenhouse gases.</p>
<p>I like how anybody who comes back from Iraq, isn&#8217;t all cheery and happy about everything that went on there, and then talks about it publicly is a traitor. Hell, most of my unit was saying &#8220;F-ck this sh-t&#8221; y the end of the deployment so criticizing them is criticizing most of my unit, hence you can suck it.</p>
<p>Jason Washburn talking about firing on a woman with a Mk 19 or being in a free fire zone sounds like he didn&#8217;t witness that, that was just other people yeah?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anybody in the Army who is an alcoholic. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re just fine after dealing with the stench of rotting corpses all day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for messing with you. &#8220;Tailgunner Joe&#8221; McCarthy was a good man, and saved America from those Democrat communists.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/05/08/ivaw-tries-again/#comment-66930</link>
		<author>CJ</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hamid, almost everyone on that panel with one exception spoke about what they heard or "thought" happened.  But, I like that you compare IVAW members with Germans responsible for the holocaust.  Not much difference there since these guys are also enabling the enemy to continue killing Soldiers.  Additionally, perhaps you should read more of my posts and you'd understand the sarcasm that I've ALWAYS used to describe the Lancelot Study.  I'm not a moron, moron.  I know what the "Lancet Study" is.  I also use terms like Nancy Peloser and Jack Murthafocker.  Care to correct me on those too?

Finally, there aren't many Soldiers that WANT to be in combat for combat's sake.  Like you, most members of my platoon and company wanted to get home and use similar language to voice their frustration.  I even said the same thing, but that doesn't mean I don't want success!  Combat sucks.  It's inhuman.  It's vile.  It's disgusting and violent.  No one, except the few sickos out there that get kicks from killing another human being, wants to kill people!  Overwhelmingly though, we understand our mission in total.  I've been volunteering to go back and I can guarantee that by the time I get towards the end of my next tour, I'll want it to end as soon as possible then too.  You can't rely on your own false logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamid, almost everyone on that panel with one exception spoke about what they heard or &#8220;thought&#8221; happened.  But, I like that you compare IVAW members with Germans responsible for the holocaust.  Not much difference there since these guys are also enabling the enemy to continue killing Soldiers.  Additionally, perhaps you should read more of my posts and you&#8217;d understand the sarcasm that I&#8217;ve ALWAYS used to describe the Lancelot Study.  I&#8217;m not a moron, moron.  I know what the &#8220;Lancet Study&#8221; is.  I also use terms like Nancy Peloser and Jack Murthafocker.  Care to correct me on those too?</p>
<p>Finally, there aren&#8217;t many Soldiers that WANT to be in combat for combat&#8217;s sake.  Like you, most members of my platoon and company wanted to get home and use similar language to voice their frustration.  I even said the same thing, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t want success!  Combat sucks.  It&#8217;s inhuman.  It&#8217;s vile.  It&#8217;s disgusting and violent.  No one, except the few sickos out there that get kicks from killing another human being, wants to kill people!  Overwhelmingly though, we understand our mission in total.  I&#8217;ve been volunteering to go back and I can guarantee that by the time I get towards the end of my next tour, I&#8217;ll want it to end as soon as possible then too.  You can&#8217;t rely on your own false logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/05/08/ivaw-tries-again/#comment-79633</link>
		<author>Tony</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>CJ. Well said and done my friend. I love how these groups and some politicians take HEAR SAY as fact and proof now a days.It just blows my mind. If their have been 1,200,00 deaths in Iraq then why hasn't this been all over the news? I don't care who you are,something like that COULD NOT be covered up or hidden for long at all.

Now, granted,are their bad Soldiers? Yes, their are. And do some do horrible things? YES, they do.It's been that way sense war was first started.That will never change but the Military as a whole is good and decent and doesn't want to go to war.War sucks.But,as a soldier you ALWAYS put your mission first and if that mission happens to be ethically wrong,THEN by all means speak up.Other wise, proceed with your mission.

I have a good feeling most of these people that are "former " soldiers and I use the term soldier loosely, were either kicked out for some reason that pisses them off or were there ONLY for the college money and were pissed they had to go fight.God knows we wouldn't want someone that just wants college money to do their duty and fallow the Oath they took and contract they signed.

I am in the Military so everyone knows and no, I have not been deployed yet.But as a soldier I WILL go when and if i'm called to do so.If I refused to go for what ever reason,then I would be dishonoring them memories of those fallen soldiers like these former soldiers are doing in these groups.

Hooah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ. Well said and done my friend. I love how these groups and some politicians take HEAR SAY as fact and proof now a days.It just blows my mind. If their have been 1,200,00 deaths in Iraq then why hasn&#8217;t this been all over the news? I don&#8217;t care who you are,something like that COULD NOT be covered up or hidden for long at all.</p>
<p>Now, granted,are their bad Soldiers? Yes, their are. And do some do horrible things? YES, they do.It&#8217;s been that way sense war was first started.That will never change but the Military as a whole is good and decent and doesn&#8217;t want to go to war.War sucks.But,as a soldier you ALWAYS put your mission first and if that mission happens to be ethically wrong,THEN by all means speak up.Other wise, proceed with your mission.</p>
<p>I have a good feeling most of these people that are &#8220;former &#8221; soldiers and I use the term soldier loosely, were either kicked out for some reason that pisses them off or were there ONLY for the college money and were pissed they had to go fight.God knows we wouldn&#8217;t want someone that just wants college money to do their duty and fallow the Oath they took and contract they signed.</p>
<p>I am in the Military so everyone knows and no, I have not been deployed yet.But as a soldier I WILL go when and if i&#8217;m called to do so.If I refused to go for what ever reason,then I would be dishonoring them memories of those fallen soldiers like these former soldiers are doing in these groups.</p>
<p>Hooah</p>
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