Comments on: Vets On The Hill Liveblogging http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/04/05/vets-on-the-hill-liveblogging/ Updated information on Veteran Benefits, featured Military Bloggers, the You Served Podcast and various other news and information relevant to Veterans. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:50:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Grumpy http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/04/05/vets-on-the-hill-liveblogging/comment-page-1/#comment-55980 Grumpy Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:12:44 +0000 http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2008/04/05/vets-on-the-hill-liveblogging/#comment-55980 CJ, as we look forward to Gen. Petraeus' visit to Congress. You are correct, The comments by the Speaker of the House, in my view. are not appropriate, as noted in the next post from 3 Apr 2008. She was definitely not helpful in finding a resolution to a very complex situation. You are right, the Congress needs to learn to listen. But I would say it a little differently. Congress needs to learn to listen - listen. Yes, the word "listen" is used twice. This means, they need to listen to what is being actually said. In an ideal world, this would be without all of the partisan political BS, on both sides. It is that second "listen", you really want to watch. They should really really listen to what is NOT BEING SAID. Even in the ideal world, this second "listen" will hold far more weight than the first. Let me be perfectly clear, I am, in no way talking about withdrawing at this time. But we must, at some point in time, face the facts based on many factors,we will forced to leave Iraq. It would be in the best interest of the Iraqis, for them to get into the "fast track" for real problem resolution. CJ, you said Congress needs to listen, this is partially true. General Petraeus, needs to do the same thing, I do not believe this is anything new to him. But the "Administration" needs to learn to listen-listen. There is an old adage going back many years. "What is the difference between a wise man and foolish man? The wise man knows that he knows not and the foolish man knows not that he knows not." Did you notice both men don't know? It is the fact of their recognition of the fact. I don't care, even if you were in either area of these 2 conflicts, there is much you don't know. To be honest, there is a great deal for one VERY GRUMPY OLD VET, me, to learn. This means I need to, like everybody else, learn to LISTEN-LISTEN. Join me. GRUMPY CJ, as we look forward to Gen. Petraeus’ visit to Congress. You are correct, The comments by the Speaker of the House, in my view. are not appropriate, as noted in the next post from 3 Apr 2008. She was definitely not helpful in finding a resolution to a very complex situation. You are right, the Congress needs to learn to listen. But I would say it a little differently. Congress needs to learn to listen – listen. Yes, the word “listen” is used twice. This means, they need to listen to what is being actually said. In an ideal world, this would be without all of the partisan political BS, on both sides. It is that second “listen”, you really want to watch. They should really really listen to what is NOT BEING SAID. Even in the ideal world, this second “listen” will hold far more weight than the first. Let me be perfectly clear, I am, in no way talking about withdrawing at this time. But we must, at some point in time, face the facts based on many factors,we will forced to leave Iraq. It would be in the best interest of the Iraqis, for them to get into the “fast track” for real problem resolution.

CJ, you said Congress needs to listen, this is partially true. General Petraeus, needs to do the same thing, I do not believe this is anything new to him. But the “Administration” needs to learn to listen-listen. There is an old adage going back many years. “What is the difference between a wise man and foolish man? The wise man knows that he knows not and the foolish man knows not that he knows not.” Did you notice both men don’t know? It is the fact of their recognition of the fact. I don’t care, even if you were in either area of these 2 conflicts, there is much you don’t know. To be honest, there is a great deal for one VERY GRUMPY OLD VET, me, to learn. This means I need to, like everybody else, learn to LISTEN-LISTEN. Join me.

GRUMPY

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