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		<title>By: Dennis Goethe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Goethe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Congressman Ron Paul USAF/US Air National Guard is still upholding this oath. He is the champion of the Constitution."
Well said Lisa!

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

This is from my USAF Handbook, Feb. 1969.  I took this oath in Chicago, Feb. 1969 and am very pleased to learn that Ron Paul is a vet.

He had my vote before I knew this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Congressman Ron Paul USAF/US Air National Guard is still upholding this oath. He is the champion of the Constitution.&#8221;<br />
Well said Lisa!</p>
<p>I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”</p>
<p>This is from my USAF Handbook, Feb. 1969.  I took this oath in Chicago, Feb. 1969 and am very pleased to learn that Ron Paul is a vet.</p>
<p>He had my vote before I knew this.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.vamortgagecenter.com/blog/2007/06/12/military-records-of-08-presidential-candidates/#comment-37372</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Ron Paul must scare the bejeepers out of the republican party leaders. (1.) Vietnam era Veteran.  (2.) Anti-war,  yet leading all republican candidates in military campaign donations. (3) Conservative, a pro-life obstetrician. (4) Proven leadership, reelected many times over by his constituents. 

Only problem is, he wants smaller federal government and less taxes...and they apparently want nothing to do with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Ron Paul must scare the bejeepers out of the republican party leaders. (1.) Vietnam era Veteran.  (2.) Anti-war,  yet leading all republican candidates in military campaign donations. (3) Conservative, a pro-life obstetrician. (4) Proven leadership, reelected many times over by his constituents. </p>
<p>Only problem is, he wants smaller federal government and less taxes&#8230;and they apparently want nothing to do with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Scharbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Scharbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul has a lot in common with Barry Goldwater, who was also a career USAF/AFNG officer and a champion of the Constitution.  

Bill is right about the oath; above all, the oath is first and foremost about the Constitution, and defense of the the Constitution against its enemies, rather than politics, is the purpose of military service.   For that reason, I was able, like many, to take the oath and serve with a clear conscience in Vietnam, although I didn't agree with the war. 

Ernest, though, is also right, in the sense that men and women who serve put themselves in harm's way.  Many die, many more bear the scars of mental and physical wounds from service for their lifetime.  

What I find distressing today, looking back at age 60, is that many so-called "conservatives" have come equate patriotism with "talking the talk" -- loudly proclaiming a right-wing political stance -- rather than "walking the walk" -- actual service.   The volunteer military is undoubtedly easier to manage than a military based on universal service, but we've lost a great deal, it seems to me, by abandoning the idea that every citizen should bear an equal share of the risks of military service.

It is telling that, leaving aside John McCain's flips and flops over the years about DADT, Ron Paul is the only Republican presidential candidate who openly opposes DADT.  The rest of the crowd, all of whom apparently had something better to do than put on a uniform when of age for service, hew the line drawn by the Religious Right.  It is all nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul has a lot in common with Barry Goldwater, who was also a career USAF/AFNG officer and a champion of the Constitution.  </p>
<p>Bill is right about the oath; above all, the oath is first and foremost about the Constitution, and defense of the the Constitution against its enemies, rather than politics, is the purpose of military service.   For that reason, I was able, like many, to take the oath and serve with a clear conscience in Vietnam, although I didn&#8217;t agree with the war. </p>
<p>Ernest, though, is also right, in the sense that men and women who serve put themselves in harm&#8217;s way.  Many die, many more bear the scars of mental and physical wounds from service for their lifetime.  </p>
<p>What I find distressing today, looking back at age 60, is that many so-called &#8220;conservatives&#8221; have come equate patriotism with &#8220;talking the talk&#8221; &#8212; loudly proclaiming a right-wing political stance &#8212; rather than &#8220;walking the walk&#8221; &#8212; actual service.   The volunteer military is undoubtedly easier to manage than a military based on universal service, but we&#8217;ve lost a great deal, it seems to me, by abandoning the idea that every citizen should bear an equal share of the risks of military service.</p>
<p>It is telling that, leaving aside John McCain&#8217;s flips and flops over the years about DADT, Ron Paul is the only Republican presidential candidate who openly opposes DADT.  The rest of the crowd, all of whom apparently had something better to do than put on a uniform when of age for service, hew the line drawn by the Religious Right.  It is all nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congressman Ron Paul USAF/US Air National Guard is still upholding this oath. He is the champion of the Constitution.</description>
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		<title>By: B Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every Private, General, Active, Reserve, cook, fighter pilot, ranger etc. takes the same sworn oath to put themselves between the US and its enemies. Thats MILITARY SERVICE!!!

Nope, They swear to defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies foreign and domestic, at least that is the oath I took.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every Private, General, Active, Reserve, cook, fighter pilot, ranger etc. takes the same sworn oath to put themselves between the US and its enemies. Thats MILITARY SERVICE!!!</p>
<p>Nope, They swear to defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies foreign and domestic, at least that is the oath I took.</p>
<p>I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Caldwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every Private, General, Active, Reserve, cook, fighter pilot, ranger etc. takes the same sworn oath to put themselves between the US and its enemies.  Thats MILITARY SERVICE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every Private, General, Active, Reserve, cook, fighter pilot, ranger etc. takes the same sworn oath to put themselves between the US and its enemies.  Thats MILITARY SERVICE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you dee mark for helping out the editorial staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you dee mark for helping out the editorial staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot:

    Congressman Ron Paul seved as an Air Force Flight Surgeon in the 60's.</description>
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<p>    Congressman Ron Paul seved as an Air Force Flight Surgeon in the 60&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You show pictures of Mike Gravel (who served in United States Army Counter Intelligence Corps, 1951-1955 which included work throughout the Korean War) and Ron Paul (who served in the Air Force in the early days of Vietnam) but don't include their military service. Please update to include these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You show pictures of Mike Gravel (who served in United States Army Counter Intelligence Corps, 1951-1955 which included work throughout the Korean War) and Ron Paul (who served in the Air Force in the early days of Vietnam) but don&#8217;t include their military service. Please update to include these.</p>
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		<title>By: dee mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>dee mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot:
Mike Gravel
Gravel joined the U.S. army (1951-1955), where he worked in Communication Intelligence Services and as a Special Agent in the Counter Intelligence Corps. As a Senator, he is primarily known for his efforts in ending the draft following the Vietnam War and for having put into the public record the Pentagon Papers in 1971.

Ron Paul
Paul's medical training was interrupted when he was drafted during the Cuban Missile Crisis into the United States Air Force. He remained in the military during the early years of the Vietnam War. He was never sent to Vietnam, instead serving active duty (1963-1965) that took him to other countries, including South Korea, Iran, Ethiopia and Turkey. He served as a flight surgeon out of Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas from 1963 to 1965. He then served in the Air National Guard from 1965 to 1968 while completing his medical residency in Pittsburgh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot:<br />
Mike Gravel<br />
Gravel joined the U.S. army (1951-1955), where he worked in Communication Intelligence Services and as a Special Agent in the Counter Intelligence Corps. As a Senator, he is primarily known for his efforts in ending the draft following the Vietnam War and for having put into the public record the Pentagon Papers in 1971.</p>
<p>Ron Paul<br />
Paul&#8217;s medical training was interrupted when he was drafted during the Cuban Missile Crisis into the United States Air Force. He remained in the military during the early years of the Vietnam War. He was never sent to Vietnam, instead serving active duty (1963-1965) that took him to other countries, including South Korea, Iran, Ethiopia and Turkey. He served as a flight surgeon out of Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas from 1963 to 1965. He then served in the Air National Guard from 1965 to 1968 while completing his medical residency in Pittsburgh.</p>
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